State of the Unemployed Union

Interviewing Analysis

In  my last article we celebrated the first anniversary of the loss of my job. Now I would like to explore the dynamics of the job interview.

Immediately after losing my last job I began seeking new work by updating my resume on every online employment site I could find. These sites, like CareerBuilder.com and Monster.com, offer many helpful resources for the job seeker. These resources include resume review, salary comparisons, and interview preparation.

I delved deeply into the interview preparation advice provided on several sites. I found that many of these sites rehash the same information regarding how to dress for an interview, how to respond to various types of questions, and which questions to ask the interviewer. 

I expected the advice for questioning the questioner to be particularly helpful. So I wrote down several of the questions provided for use during my own interviews. Some of the questions I decided to use include the following (not necessarily in this order):

  1. Describe a typical workday for this position.
  2. How has this company/industry been affected by the current economic conditions?
  3. What are the skills and attributes you value most for someone being hired for this position?
  4. Describe the corporate culture.
  5. What are the performance expectations for this position over the short- and long-term?
  6. What is the next step in the interview process?

As I prepared for each interview, I made sure to clean and press my suits, print clean copies of my resume and professional references, and prepare answers for questions that I might be asked. I even prepared my list of questions to ask the interviewer.

Now, Reader, I will remind you that in the year that I have been unemployed that I have only had nine interviews. This does not include the numerous interviews that I have had with staffing agencies. I am only talking about the interviews for legitimate open positions. Nine. In one year. So I developed the routine as mentioned above and have followed it religiously.

Sometime after applying for a position – usually three to four weeks – I would receive a call from an HR manager conducting the initial screening telephone interview. Typically, that person would have to confer with departmental managers before scheduling a personal interview. Within a week of the telephone screening interview I would receive an invitation to a personal interview.

I would complete my preparation the night before the personal interview. The day of the interview I would be fresh, clean, pressed, and fully prepared. Arriving about ten minutes early, I would be greeted by a receptionist and be offered a seat in the lobby. The receptionist would notify the interviewer of my arrival.

Some time would pass, typically ten to fifteen minutes, before the interviewer would finally come to greet me. We would exchange the usual pleasantries, shake hands, and he or she would lead me to either an office or a conference room where the interview would be conducted.

Generally, the interview would begin with a description of the available position, an overview of the corporate culture, and a review of the employee benefits. And then the question – or statement – I dread the most comes. “Tell me about yourself”.

This question makes me cringe and I have to be mindful that I don’t give that away with non-verbal cues. I answer honestly with the things I have learned about myself over the years and hope that my self-description fits the model the interviewer is looking to hire. I am energetic, self-motivated, and my energy and motivation increase during periods of stress. I am proficient in the entire Microsoft Office Professional Suite, as well as a cadre of other software programs, primarily contact management and financial management databases. I have had technical training self-study in the past, have been a securities licensing candidate, and am currently pursuing a degree in Business Administration. I have consistently built a great rapport with clients, managers, and co-workers in each position I have held. These things I relay with a practiced but moderated enthusiasm. Confident, but not self-impressed. Eager to please without begging for the job.

And then comes the second question that I have come to dread. “Do you have any questions for me?” Why, yes, I do. I proceed with my handy dandy list of questions for the interviewer. I have found during this phase of job seeking that interviewers do not really want to be asked questions. Some interviewers have actually seemed perturbed that I did have questions to ask. They will answer politely and thoughtfully, but without any enthusiasm. Some interviewers have literally flubbed their way through their answers, hemming and hawing, betraying the fact that they were completely unprepared to be questioned. I have had to finish the interviewer’s sentences on more than one occasion.

These are the people who make the decisions. They have a measure of power over your professional life, namely whether or not you are chosen to join their company. And the pros tell you to ask certain questions during a job interview to show your interest in the company, the position, and to display your professionalism. These questions are supposed to help you get the job. But not under today’s job-seeking/employee-seeking environment. Under today’s conditions the job-seeker is expected to smile (but not too much), answer numerous in-depth questions (politely, but not too enthusiastically, nor too honestly), and wait however long the company decides to take to let you know whether or not you make it to the next step. (Oh, also, don’t follow up after an interview. I have followed that advice consistently and have determined that hiring managers do not want you to show any initiative)

Conclusion: Hiring managers do not want to be questioned by you. They want you to answer their questions, smile, don’t be too eager or too confident, and certainly do not show any initiative by following up with them after an interview.

So why do the so-called career experts tell candidates to prepare for interviews with specific questions and answers that no interviewer cares to hear? Interviewers are busy. Many of them have responsibilities outside of interviewing and taking the time to interview candidates takes time away from those other critical duties. How can a candidate win a job when following professional advice falls on distracted ears? It’s a no-win situation.

Reader, I ask you to submit to me your interviewing experiences. Tell me about the interviews that went bust and those that went boom. Maybe in sharing our adventures in interviewing we can glean tactics that work, learn which tactics to avoid, and eventually win that coveted next job.

 

 


Anniversary

I knew this day would come. But that doesn’t mean that I am any more prepared to deal with it.

Today is the one year anniversary of the loss of my last job. As mentioned in my previous post, I have suffered varying degrees of depression since I lost my job. It  started out pretty severe with me sleeping all but two hours a day and planting myself on the couch for those two hours.

My husband talked me into joining a gym in order to give me a place to go on a regular basis and to aide in dealing with the depression. After three months of talking about it I finally joined. It was a huge and frightening step to take in my recovery. I would have to be around people that I did not know, and not only that, I would be exercising in front of them. Physical movement. Sweating. Gasping for breath.

The image of me working out was not attractive in any sense of the word. But I went. I began going for thirty minutes three times a week. I could indulge in the trashiest of t.v. shows while pounding through my scattered thoughts on the treadmill. And as time passed I really did begin to feel better. I even began to get to know the trainers, Ryan and Britt. They bestowed upon me the nickname of Princess. (I am the schlubbiest looking woman at the gym so the irony is not lost on me)

My well-being seemed to grow in inverse proportion to my job prospects. The better I felt, the fewer the job prospects. I had continued to send my resume and make follow up calls, but interviews were not requested and calls were not returned. I felt really good, though.

This good feeling lead me into confidently emailing my former employer informing them that I was still unemployed nearly a year out and could they forward my updated resume to associates in the industry who may be hiring I also asked that, if they were seeking an assistant, could I be considered? They wrote back that they were glad to hear from me, would happily forward my resume on my behalf, but were in no position to hire at this time. Fees were still down and expenses had to be contained.

Receiving that mostly positive response from my former employer increased my good feelings and got me thinking. Did I really want to go back if they had been able to rehire me? I think the answer to that question is no. If the economy and the position of the company were so shaky that I had lost my job after a mere eight months, even after some economic recovery, what would prevent the same thing from happening again? I would still just be an assistant. I would still have no control whatsoever over my career.

And I have come to realize in this year of unemployment that what I want most, more than job stability, more than a decent salary, is control. I want control over my career. I want to call the shots. Control over my career equals control over my life. I may need to take chances that I would not typically take. I may need to get out of my comfort zone. And it may be harder to earn the amount of money I need to earn. But if I am in control – if I call all the shots – I could be happy. And the money and the stability will follow. Thinking on these things is helping me to get through this day of dubious distinction.

Happy anniversary to me.

 


Gain & Loss

Nearly one year ago I lost what was the best job I had ever had. I was an assistant for an independent portfolio management firm, working in a team of three assistants who served five managers. My job could best be described as three jobs in one – Information Systems Management, Administrative Assistance, and Customer Service. The pace was fast, the days varied, and the tension ran so high we had an in-house blood pressure machine. I loved every minute of it.

 Let me take you back to the beginning. I had been with a small trust company for a couple of years when it went out of business. I had enjoyed a great relationship with my superiors and co-workers, loved the work I was doing, and had hoped for a long career with this company. Instead, I ended up helping the company close up shop after its sale to a bank.

 This loss left me feeling all right, actually. I was satisfied with my job performance and confident in my skills. I had interviewed with several companies, optimistic that my next position would be the long-lasting professional relationship I had been waiting for. Two short months later I secured a job assisting the branch manager of a life insurance company.

 Six days into that job I received a phone call from an owner of one of the other companies with which I had interviewed. He asked me to come in for a second interview. While I was thrilled with the invitation, I politely declined, indicating that I had already begun employment with another company. He persisted, telling me that they had been hoping to offer the position to me during that second interview, describing to me the compensation package in detail. It was an offer I could not refuse. I accepted immediately.

 The following day I signed and faxed the acceptance letter for this new position. All I had to do was wait to hear back from the hiring manager for my start date. I held my breath and continued my workday at the life insurance company as normally as possible.

 On the morning of my eighth day at the life insurance company the hiring manager called me just as I was leaving for work. My start date would be the following Monday. I told him joyfully that I would see him then. Then I solemnly went to work what would be my last day at the life insurance company.

 About two hours into the day I requested a private meeting with the branch manager. I don’t know whether he suspected anything as he was busy readying for an out of town business trip. He closed his office door, we sat down, and I gave him my two week notice. He said he understood why I had accepted the other position. I had a family to help support and I would have been a fool to refuse the compensation I had been offered. However, he did ask me to leave immediately, as he would have to quickly replace me. I packed up my things and left smiling, knowing that I was looking toward a better future.

Eight months into this new job, two of the owners asked to meet with me privately. They immediately got down to business. I was a wonderful person, they explained, and they really liked me, but economic conditions dictated that cuts be made and they had to let me go.

 My head spun. I cried openly. I had loved that job with all my heart. I liked my co-workers, had the respect of my superiors, loved the clients, and enjoyed the work I was doing. This was supposed to be “the” job. The company I would grow with and eventually retire from. But it was not to be.

 This job loss, unlike the previous two, left me in a deep depression. I felt lacking in every respect even though my bosses had told me that they really liked me. It wasn’t a decision that they had wanted to make. It had been coming on for some time.

 I had been suspicious for several months. The market was spiraling downward, banks were failing, and clients were scared and pulling up stakes. I had access to the reports containing assets under management data. I saw with my own eyes the effect the economy was having on this wonderful company. I even expressed my concern to one of the owners three months before I had been let go and he assured me that the company was doing everything possible to maintain itself, that they had seen down times before and never cut personnel to stay afloat. They held the family together, battened down the hatches, sailed the rough seas together until those seas calmed. I had no need to worry.

 So I didn’t worry. Then reality hit and I was out of a job. I immediately updated my resume and references. I posted my updated resume on every online job search site I could find. I signed up with several staffing agencies. Each assured me that my skills and qualifications would grant me a new job soon. I had great skill to offer and my references were excellent. “Don’t worry. You’ve got what employers are looking for right now.” But there were no phone calls. No requests for interviews.

 My depression deepened. I would get the kids off to school and go back to bed. Watch television and answer online job ads for two hours and go back to bed. I sat on the couch for three months until my husband made me join a gym just to get me out of the house and into some sort of routine.

 I kept on keeping on, but the phone did not ring for months. Working out regularly at the gym, however, did begin to ease the depression. Nearly one year later I am still unemployed. But the phone has recently begun to ring.


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Hello world!

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Hey, it’s Tanya, the self-appointed President of The Unemployed Union. Come one, come all.

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